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Wednesday, July 29th, 2009
10:20 pm
[veduyu]
hypocrisy in the UK ???

hello, the members of the uk_cell! you're discussing really important problems of nowdays. but what can you say about hypocrisy in the UK? Does it take place? And if yes, then why? Who are these hypocrites? and how to deal with them?
Saturday, September 17th, 2005
6:02 pm
[rhonan]
Greetings to our brothers and sisters in the United Kingdom. It is with great joy and love that we, the Seattle Washington cell of the International Unitarian Universalist Jihad greet you. I have been asked to inquire of you the source of your most excellent icon. Do you know it its maker could be beseeched to make one for the Seattle Cell?

Brother Garrote of Forgiveness
Sunday, July 3rd, 2005
1:28 pm
[mintogrubb]
I wonder if anyone is interested in this link here?
Many years back , I and 3 other friends founded the reading branch of results. I am glad to see it is still going...
http://www.results-uk.org/
Friday, July 1st, 2005
11:36 am
[mintogrubb]
A poll is being conducted in the International HQ.
It's result will have a bigger impact in America , possiblly, but you may wish to vote anyways.
Tuesday, June 14th, 2005
12:33 pm
[ohnefuehlen]
Debt relief is all very well, but I'm not yet convinced. This supposed humanitarian gesture could very well be a Trojan horse to conceal the imperialism and capitalism we are to enforce upon Africa.

Speaking of imperialism and capitalism, is anybody else going to Marxism 2005?
Friday, June 3rd, 2005
9:25 pm
[anchovie]
I think we should have a little nuddy David-esque dance.
Praise God for the work of Gordon Brown!
All love, Sister Sabre of Enlightened Kindness. xxx
8:01 pm
[mintogrubb]
Pope Palpatine, widely toted as a great intellectual, thinks that harry potter is evil and luring kids into Satanism. In contrast to his predecessor who praised the work of JK Rowling, the new Pope has signalled his dissaopproval. This has drawn criticism from Charlotte Church, among others...
Condemning the use of contraception is one thing, but messing with the HP fanclub will get this guy into big trouble - you mark my words!
X posted in my LJ, and unitarian_jihad when I get a round tuit.
3:42 am
[micklawson]
Hmm, Well during the course of my early morning arguments, this time on the topic of "human instincts" and lack thereof, I got thinking, "Gods will" in many erm "Middle eastern" countries seems to be that women should cover up, and shut up, just in case it provokes a mans desires, in many countries with similar faith/s, girls carrying the fruits of incestuous relationships will end up being victims of "honor" killings, this, to me, just seems like Man's will, not the will of any "supreme being"

When will the women of these countries wake up, smell the so overly processed cafinated drink (That will probably have been very lucky if it ever saw a coffee bean in it's life!

*Allah knows best!

Xposted religiondebate micklawson uk_cell
Sunday, May 29th, 2005
3:41 pm
[mintogrubb]
From International HQ
As a jihadist, I am commited to spreading tolerance and civility worldwide, not just in my own country. however, I think that rationality and civilised discourse are also important, even if some insist on spelling it with a 'z'.
To that end, I present an article first flagged up in atheist, and hope that the mods approve. To my fellow Jihadists in the States, I send greetings, and hope that this is if interest and use in your struggles against Religious and Cultural Imperialism.

The Ten Commandments. Moses was not the only person to come up with 10 Commandments -

Moses version reads as follows
1. Have no other gods before me [the God of the Hebrews].
2. Make no images of anything in heaven, earth or the sea, and do not worship or labor for them.
3. Do not vainly use the name of your God [the God of the Hebrews].
4. Do no work on the seventh day of the week.
5. Honor your parents.
6. Do not kill.
7. Do not commit adultery.
8. Do not steal.
9. Do not give false testimony against another.
10. Do not desire another's wife or anything that belongs to another.

But another set goes like this...

The Ten Commandments of Solon (Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, 1.60), which run as follows:

1. Trust good character more than promises.
2. Do not speak falsely.
3. Do good things.
4. Do not be hasty in making friends, but do not abandon them once made.
5. Learn to obey before you command.
6. When giving advice, do not recommend what is most pleasing, but what is most useful.
7. Make reason your supreme commander.
8. Do not associate with people who do bad things.
9. Honor the gods.
10. Have regard for your parents.

Unlike the Commandments of Moses, none of these is outdated or antithetical to modern moral or political thought. Every one could be taken up by anyone today, of any creed--except perhaps only one. And indeed, there is something much more profound in these commandments. They are far more useful as precepts for living one's life. Can society, can government, prevail and prosper if we fail to uphold the First Commandment of Moses? By our own written declaration of religious liberty for all, we have staked our entire national destiny on the belief that we not only can get by without it, but we ought to abolish it entirely. Yet what if we were to fail to uphold Solon's first commandment? The danger to society would be clear--indeed, doesn't this commandment speak to the heart of what makes or breaks a democratic society? Isn't it absolutely fundamental that we not trust the promises of politicians and flatterers, but elect our leaders and choose our friends instead by taking the trouble to evaluate the goodness of their character? This, then, can truly be said to be an ideal that is fundamental to modern moral and political thought.

Now, two of the commandments of Solon are almost identical to those advocated by Moses: do not speak falsely, and have regard for your parents. Of course, Solon does not restrict his first injunction to false accusations or testimony against others, as Moses does. Solon's commandment is more profound and thus more fundamental, and is properly qualified by the other commandments in just the way we believe is appropriate--for Solon's rules allow one to lie if doing so is a good deed (no such prescription to do good appears in the Ten Commandments of Moses). And whereas Moses calls us to honor our parents (in the Hebrew, from kabed, "to honor, to glorify"), Solon's choice of words is more appropriate--he only asks us to treat our parents in a respectful way (in the Greek, from aideomai, "to show a sense of regard for, to have compassion upon"), which we can do even if we disobey or oppose them, and even if we disapprove of their character and thus have no grounds to honor them.

The full article is found here...
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/features/2000/carrier2.html
I hope that it's inclusion here will stimulate much reasoned disscussion as we sip our beverages of choice and nibble our bikkies!
Bro. Broadsword.
Thursday, May 26th, 2005
11:44 am
[mintogrubb]
I recently proposed that we add the Skeptics Annotated Bible to our links here.
The reason being that it will allow people a resource to use in rational debate.

grandgousier writes -
Although I've read this site and kinda agree with some of it (despite being religious) I wouldn't recommend actually linking it as it'd make members of three of the larger world religions against unitarian jihad merely for an internet link. It just doesn't seem a very smart action for a group which hopes to secure world niceness one day, to start by denying other people's faiths as some might see it. That's just my opinion of course.

My response to this is as follows:-

We are indeed here to "secure world niceness one day". I do not mean to ridicule that aim. I do not advocate trolling the fundamentalist Christian / Moslem LJ communities with the links. I do however feel that we are not *just* about spreading niceness. we are also about spreading Rationality.
Did not Jon Carrol say that we would not hire fruitcakes, but hire experts who had thought it through and present such experts as a means of furthering an understanding of the issue?
To Quote the blessed JC Himself on the issue -
"Beware! Unless you people shut up and begin acting like grown-ups with brains enough to understand the difference between political belief and personal faith, the Unitarian Jihad will begin a series of terrorist-like actions. We will take over television studios, kidnap so-called commentators and broadcast calm, well-reasoned discussions of the issues of the day. We will not try for "balance" by hiring fruitcakes; we will try for balance by hiring non-ideologues who have carefully thought through the issues.
( emphasis added)
I will open the discussion here and leave it for 3 days, before opening a poll.

Should we add the links to SAB to our user info or not? The floor is open...
Tuesday, May 24th, 2005
11:53 am
[mintogrubb]
proposition before the Membership of the UK cell.
I have proposed that the following links be added to the User Info on our International HQ site.
I also propose that we make the links avialable here.
Will anyone second the motion? Anyone wish to speak against?
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.html
it now includes an annex that includes the Koran
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.html

ETA. The proposal is seconded, and if none stand against, it will be passed. If opposed, amendments may be tabled, and a vote will be taken. The motion will be passed in 48 hrs if no one stands against.
Monday, May 23rd, 2005
9:08 am
[mintogrubb]
As people of tolerance, I feel that we ought to be prepared to engage in reasoned discussion, not only with our opponents, but also to reach out to the uncommitted. When someone is telling a group of friends that they need to know that the Bible is the Inspired, Inerrant and Infallible Word of the Lord, or that they need to follow the Koran in order to be blessed, how can we engage people in rational discussion if we do not know what the Bible or the Koran actually say?
What do the Bible and the Koran actually say about Women's Rights? About Democracy? About so many issues that are part of life in the 21st century?
It can be confusing to wade through an unfamiliar text without a guide, but help is at hand. The Skeptics Annotated Version has a website that covers the Bible, the Koran (in Arabic, it is reffered to as the Qu'ran) and also the Book of Mormon.
Some will know about the Skeptics Annotated Bible, which is an on line edition of the Authorised Version (aka the King James Version)
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.html
it now includes an annex that includes the Koran
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.html
And the Book of Mormon.
sadly this one wont come up, but click the relevent button on the main site.

One is guided to either the text in full, or quotations on specific issues. One can also check the text for inconsistencies, contradictions and scientific or factual errors where these occur. Of course, a dedicated fanatic will always produce an excuse as to why the problem is not really a problem for a True Believer, but the unbiased listener will be in a position to make up their own minds.
Some who know me well in this community may be surprised to know that I was once a Fundamentalist Christian, but that is a fact. It is true that I began to see errors and think about things for myself, but it is also down to outside help that I finally broke fre from the grip of bigotry and ignorance. let us be resolved to help others do likewise.
6:33 am
[mintogrubb]
gacked from UU Mom
The update here will interest missspunk and anyone else interested in Muslim Women's Rights internationally.
http://www.livejournal.com/community/unitarian_jihad/50513.html?replyto=402257
Saturday, May 21st, 2005
1:19 pm
[mintogrubb]
Not only in America...
...but in Europe as well, there are those that want to turn the clock back. In the last 200 years or so, we have created societies in the Western World that offer a more equal opportunity for women to lead their own lives as they would choose. Western women now have a choice in how many childen they will have, if they choose to have any at all.

Not everyone is happy with this, as the following link makes clear.
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,344374,00.html

We must unitite internationally against this sort of extremism. We must export the Jihad and it's principles across the world and stand in solidarity with all who wish to remain free of the tyranny of the theocrats whose values come down from a different age and culture.
Xposted in uk_cell and my LJ
Thursday, May 12th, 2005
8:46 pm
[mintogrubb]
Urgent Plea for Action
As a Jihadist, as someone who wants to see a better world come about, I make the following appeal.
if you decide that this is not for you, so be it - it is your choice. However, if you feel the way I do on this issue, click the link and pass it on.
yours in solidarity,
Bro Broadsword.
text as received:

... I need you to do something for me.

Every 3 seconds a child dies because they happen to be born poor.

If we changed 3 things - trade, aid and debt - that scandal would
stop. And on 8th July, if the 8 men sitting round the table at the
G8 summit think enough people want them to - they can actually do
it. Stop the deaths.

But to make that happen we need you to get 3 people you know to go
to http://www.makepovertyhistory.org and click on the button which
says 'JOIN US'. This is serious now - time is running out - we've
got 8 weeks. So please....

Do it now, email them, text them, call them, camp on their front
lawn - whatever it takes - but I need you to find 3 people who, like
you, want to stop this casual daily holocaust.

There are 56 days before the G8 leaders meet - this is our chance...
this is the moment when we can become the generation that refuses to
live in a world where 30,000 children are dying unneccessarily every
single day.

We CAN make poverty history. But we need EVERYONE to get involved.
It's time to really go to work on this. Please recruit those 3
people, right now.

If everyone who gets this message sends it on to 3 friends, half a
million people will join us this week - that's one hell of a message
to give out to our politicians.

Thanks.

Lenny

P.S. Today Tony Blair received 300,000 white band card and email
actions already taken by people like you on behalf of the 2.5million
people now wearing the whiteband in the UK calling on him to make
poverty history, it is a great start.. but there is still a long way
to go. Click for more
(http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/tony-mph.html)
Wednesday, May 11th, 2005
3:10 pm
[anchovie]
Plea
Oi, Sister Sabre of Enlightened Kindness here. I have a Frenchie friend who's amazing at music and he wants to work in the UK in July to improve his English. I really hope someone could give me ideas of how to employ him! Tough love to all of my warrior siblings.
Saturday, May 7th, 2005
12:02 am
[mintogrubb]
Now that the election is over, I think we need to maintain momentum by contacting the media as members and as a group and putting forward our agenda as folks who want to see civility and rationality in pilitics. Also by organising a rally in London. hows about August in Hyde Park.
Anyone else up for a Jihadist picnic?
Thursday, May 5th, 2005
2:08 am
[micklawson]

Displayed with the kind permision of The Artist, Hugh Macleod image hotlinked to blog.

Xposted to uk_cell and religion_debate
Wednesday, May 4th, 2005
9:23 am
[mintogrubb]
I would encourage jihadists to sign the following petition by E mail, in support of those fleeing oppression in Burma
http://www.petitiononline.com/hsw888/petition-sign.html?

I also include a link to freeburma, because I believe it to be in total harmony with our principles.

Thank you.
X posted in unitarian_jihad
Monday, May 2nd, 2005
6:20 pm
[micklawson]
some proposals, lol.
Right, May I propose a few changes to our topsey-Turvey world?

1) If I Sign up to the gym, they suggest I wear loose fitting clothes, Do they realy think I'd have signed up if I had any?

2) Morality should be monitored closely, I use the idea that if electricity comes from the movement of electrons, Morality must come from the movement of morons?

3) I think a whole load of people would be less scared of flying if a) The airport was no longer called a "Terminal" and b) they made the whole plane from that indestructable stuff they bake just the "Black box" from.

4) Peaople complain about the rodent problem in towns and cities, yet try as I might, I still cannot find mouse flavoured cat food, only food made from animals my cat would have no chance of catching in the wild.

5) I propose Dyslexia be shortenned so sufferers may have a hope in hell of spelling their affliction, and Lisp be spelt with a "t h" in place of the s, just in case the afflicted need to describe their problem verbaly.

6) I believe that when you employ a doctor, he/she should have practised enough to do the job you pay him/her to do.

7) All fridges should come with a proximity sensor, and a large flashing display to point out that no new food has materialised since your last visit 3 minutes ago.

8) Pay per view Binoculars on tall buildings should be banned, come on, you pay to go up the building then you pay to use the binoculars or telescope to see stuff on the ground!

9) All toasters should be built without that "Burn bread to a crisp" function everyone only finds by accident and realy is only a good test for your smoke alarms that are so sensitive they work when the toaster has hardly made your bread golden brown.

10) I suggest all members write to the rubbish sack manufacturers suggesting they print "opens this end" on one end of the sack, It'd save us a whole load of time.

11) When you go to the ballet, remember to complain to the producer, these kids hurt their feet dancing on tippy toe, suggest he/she gets taller dancers for the job.

just a few of my more "sensible suggestions" I hope we can begin to implement at least some of them. :)

Xposted to micklawson and uk_cell
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